Revolution Payroll: a first outbound channel, and about 90% of the meetings were real
Revolution Payroll runs payroll and builds software for film, television and commercial production, a narrow and union-heavy market served by a handful of companies. The business had never spent anything on outbound. About four months in, roughly 90% of the meetings were, in its president's words, legitimate meetings and actual opportunities.
The situation, the work, the outcome
The situation
A startup built on relationships, running on the books of business its salespeople already had. Nothing had been spent on outbound of any kind, and whatever cold calling or emailing happened was internal. The president had been approached by firms like ours for years and had never gone that way.
The work
Two conversations before any money changed hands: a long first call that was mostly him teaching us the market, then a growth plan built on our own research. Onboarding then ran to a fixed plan with regularly scheduled sessions, deliberately repetitive.
The outcome
After an early warming-up period, roughly 90% of meetings were real opportunities. Meetings converted into customers, the funnel came up, the engagement was extended, and the internal sales team that had doubted the model now attends the calls.
Told by the operator who lived it
“We should have done this years ago, to be honest with you.”Sukhi Pabla · President & Co-Founder, Revolution Payroll · Entertainment payroll for film and TV production.
“…you came back with a lot more research and data that you had done without getting paid, without anything from us, without a contract. You put time into it, and I was really impressed by that…”On the growth plan, before anything was signed
“…maybe 90% of the meetings have been legitimate meetings and actual opportunities…”On meeting quality, four months in
“They're happy with the outreach and they're happy with the results.”On the internal sales team that expected this to fail
What the engagement actually looked like
Revolution Payroll is an entertainment payroll company specializing in payroll and software development for film and TV production and commercials. It is a very niche industry. There is probably a handful of businesses of its type serving Canada and the United States, and it is very union heavy, so the software and services exist to offer production companies things a traditional payroll company does not.
Growth had come from relationships. As a startup, the company leaned heavily on the book of business its salespeople carried and on existing relationships from times past. No effort at all had gone into buying outbound from anybody, and the little cold calling and emailing that happened was internal.
Sukhi Pabla was the harder kind of prospect, someone who had been pitched this service for years. By his own count, 99.9% of those approaches either did not catch his attention or pointed somewhere he had no interest in going. His specific fears were that an outside team would not understand the industry, how the company works, the kind of people it deals with, or how this industry buys.
Two things moved him. The first call ran 45 or 50 minutes and was mostly him educating us on the market, which was enough to show that the gap and the pain points were understood. The second was the growth plan: research and data produced before there was a contract or a payment.
Onboarding then ran to a plan he was held to, with regularly scheduled meetings. Parts of it felt redundant, and that was the point: “I felt like you guys were learning our business, and that was important for me for you to know our business.” He took enough from the process to say he learned a lot himself about how he would onboard his own clients.
Skepticism survived every stage, including signature, so the agreement itself was worked through until his concerns were answered. His test was never how much outreach went out or how many meetings got set. It was who attended and whether they were quality meetings.
The first couple of calls he marked as unqualified, which he puts down to an early warming-up campaign. Since then roughly 90% have been legitimate meetings and actual opportunities. The funnel came up, and meetings have converted into customers. Almost everything arriving now is a perfect ICP.
He also counts something he was not paying for. Outreach to 1,000 people who never knew the company existed is awareness the business lacked, whether or not any given person books a meeting.
The engagement was extended. Competing firms still email him and he does not open them. And the internal sales team, the ones who believed only relationships and contacts work in this industry and who he expected to be the real obstacle, now attend every call themselves. He sat in on the first two to see how it worked and has not needed to since.
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